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Document and Discuss
Don't Start Me Talking. Interviews with Contemporary Poets, eds. Tim Allen and Andrew Duncan [374pp, £16.99,
Salt]
Poetry Wars. British Poetry of the 1970s and the Battle of Earls
Court, Peter Barry [254pp, £16.99, Salt]
Innovative Women Poets. an anthology of Contemporary Poetry and
Interviews, eds. Alisabeth A. Frost and
Cynthia Hogue [424pp, $29.95, University of Iowa Press]
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Whilst I welcome all serious attempts to document and
discuss contemporary poetry (and there's no question of seriousness with any
of these three titles), there's something rather strange about the ongoing us
vs. them take on poetry which Duncan and Allen seem to want to perpetuate in Don't
Start Me Talking. Whilst a commitment to 'reflexive poets
whose thoughts on language and artistic procedures shed new light on modern
culture and on the interpretation of poems' is admirable, it's disingenuously
presented as an approachable and alternative version of poetics, and slightly
undermined by both the length of time this volume has taken to produce and by
the choice of interviewees. To put it bluntly, much of this material seems
dated and untimely, many of those interviewed simply aren't on the poetry
radar and can't honestly be seen as 'major players', 'neglected innovators'
or anything else. Tim Allen [himself interviewed] and Nicholas Johnson are
surely more important as publishers and editors than as poets? David
Greenslade, Sean Bonney and Elizabeth Bletsoe are the kind of small press
players that Duncan normally disparages and abuses in print. Who is Alexander
Hutchinson, and how did Eric Mottram, deceased, sneak in here? Why is Andrew
Crozier interviewed twice? And Out to Lunch is, well, out to lunch and needs
to stick to writing about Frank Zappa and Marxist conspiracy theories.
Well, moans and groans done with, I must state that there remains a solid
core of useful and interesting interviews in what should have been either a
much slimmer and more focussed volume or a much bigger and more open one.
Tony Lopez, Robert Sheppard, Kelvin Corcoran and Simon Smith are intelligent
linguistically innovative poets who fluently contextualise, theorise about
and coherently discuss their work. David Miller and John Hall are generous
and perhaps more surprising and useful, particularly in their respective
discussions of spirituality and lyrical intelligence. They are also the two
poets here who provide any sort of indication of the breadth of current
experimental poetry, and point towards other possibilities of reflexive
poetry. But really I didn't need many of these interviews, and missed
heavyweights such as Allen Fisher and other more mainstream writers. Duncan
and Allen seemed scared of engaging with anyone signed to a major publisher
or who might have a really different point of view; also of women writers Š
why is only Elizabeth Bletsoe present? Without trying to be too PC the gender
balance here is simply appalling.
Could do better. See me after school.
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Eric Mottram was, of course, one of the key players in 'the
Battle of Earls Court' as Barry calls all the inhouse bickering and
legalistic arguing (not to mention arts council wangling) that went on within
the Poetry Society's crumbling townhouse on the square some 30 years ago. At
a recent poetry conference, whose subject was 'Poetry & Public Language',
Robert Sheppard lectured in detail about one of the manifestos reproduced by
Barry in his 'Documents' appendix. Whilst interesting as an example of poetics and manifesto, and as a
sociological and literary document, I know I'm not alone in feeling that the
manifesto and the series of events around it are only one small part of
British poetry history and that they have been blown out of all proportion by
many of those involved. Unfortunately, Barry here only fans the fire and
perpetuates the self-mythologising.
Key questions Š raised in informal discussion at conference coffee and dinner
tables Š remain unanswered, namely: Why did the so-called 'British Poetry
Revival' poets feel the need to try and commandeer the Poetry Society anyway
instead of getting on with their own work elsewhere? Why were the same poets
oblivious to all the stuff like punk, performance and zine culture going on
elsewhere in the capital and nationally around them? And why, for heaven's
sake, can't they move on and forget about the whole damn thing? Those of us
discussing the matter later, who were probably all in their teens during the
70s, remember that era as an exciting, vibrant time for poetry, in fact all
the art forms, with lots happening everywhere. Far more interesting than the
mouldy damp rooms at the Poetry Society were, for example, the mouldy damp
rooms of the London Musician's Collective up in Camden, the bookshop at
Riverside Studios, and postpunk gigs at every other London pub. Compendium
Books was still open, too, for goodness sake. What went on in darkest Earls
Court was pretty much irrelevant, just as Betterton Street is today. If you
don't expect anything then you don't get disappointed. Or thrown of the
commiteee. No-one is, for example, making a similar sort of ballyhoo about
the far more recent, and to me far more interesting, ousting of Robert Potts
from Poetry Review, nor seems
willing to confess that print-on-demand teachnologies, along with Shearsman
and Salt books, mean that the members of the BPR are now widely and easily
available. And don't forget other books from Carcanet, anthologies such as
the Keith Tuma Oxford one, nor (and I hate to point this one out) the
Bloodaxe Prynne. Please,
answer the question, don't make assumptions, and don't go off at a tangent.
You are not as important as you think.
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As a lesson in openness, editing and exemplary publishing,
I recommend Innovative Women Poets, a
glorious gathering of poetry by and interviews with fourteen experimental
poets. No 'school', no manifesto, no self-righteousness, just great poetry
and in-depth questions and answers. At first glance I thought that it was
simply another publisher's riposte to Wesleyan's American Women
Poerts in the 21st Century, but this new
book does not have the subtext of 'where lyric meets language', nor the
critical essays, it simply selects poems and discusses them and poetics with
their authors. There are, of course some overlaps, but fewer than I expected.
Throughout, there is a willingness by these writers to engage with the
reader, a generosity that is often lacking in the poe-faced [usually male]
poetry of linguistic innovation in Britain at the moment. There is a
sensuousness, a lyricalness and a directness, allied with wide-ranging
processes and experiment. There is little sense of wishing to disengage or be
'other', no chips on shoulders, no us vs. them, no attitude, and no
self-mythologising the past. These writers get on doing what writers do, that
is write.
Rachel Blau duPlessis and Mei-Mei Berssenbrugge are especially lucid and
interesting. C.D. Wright, whose work I am only just engaging with for the
first time, due to a received New & Selected Poems for review from
Bloodaxe, is perhaps the most elusive or flighty in interview here, but frank
and open with it. Harryette Mullen is scholarly and deep. Several other names
are new to me, and the interviews provide an interesting avenue into their
work. This is a book I shall be spending a lot more time with, and using at
university, one I have already ordered for the library there. Frost and Hogue
are to be congratulated on their dexterous and accomplished anthology. Excellent work. Have a gold
star.
© Rupert
Loydell 2007
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